Track Car Picture Diary

[Shaggy]

Looking good mate

Have you used longer bolts for the front. I take it you used spacers on the front after fitting the brakes. I want some longer bolts but not sure where to source some.

Also, is it a pig of a job to replace them

[The Mole]

Well done Adam. good job, will be good to see it painted and fitted. Next ditch the ABS and perspex windows and take out the wiring loom and remove all the redundant wiring, lose loads of weight.

[Adam]

Looking good mate

Have you used longer bolts for the front. I take it you used spacers on the front after fitting the brakes. I want some longer bolts but not sure where to source some.

Also, is it a pig of a job to replace them

Yep, longer studs and spacers up front. They were a bit of a pig to fit into the hubs, especially to get them seated properly.

[Adam]

Finished the underside of the bonnet today and made a nice little carbon finisher to cover the hole left by the bonnet catch...

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e158/brm_ski/Rover%20BRM%20Track%20Car/06032010996.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e158/brm_ski/Rover%20BRM%20Track%20Car/06032010997.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e158/brm_ski/Rover%20BRM%20Track%20Car/06032010994.jpg

[Shaggy]

Looking good!!

[Taff]

A* for effoert bud, looks really tidy! good job.

[Adam]

Cheers lads :D

[Adam]

Another couple of little carbon trim goodies....

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e158/brm_ski/Rover%20BRM%20Track%20Car/130320101001.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e158/brm_ski/Rover%20BRM%20Track%20Car/130320101000.jpg

[nats214]

I love the touches to the fog lights..

[Seabart]

Couldn't you have used the holes of the foglights (with some ducting) to get more flow through the radiator?

[Adam]

Couldn't you have used the holes of the foglights (with some ducting) to get more flow through the radiator?

The rad gets plenty of air, especially as when the number plate is taken off there are a series of holes behind it to improve airflow and no centre pillar (there are photos somewhere earlier in this thread).

The original plan was to use the holes for ducting to the brakes, but there just physically isn't enough room to run ducting adequately, so the simple answer was to just blank them off.

[Seabart]

I indeed saw those pics when I first read the whole thread....that's also why the question popped up in my head.

Any other way to get more cooling air to the brakes?? Do they get so hot they need it or is it just "in case"? Maybe you can get the superfluous wheelcovers from the F1, they are not allowed to use them anymore. ;-D

[Adam]

Unfortuantely not, there's just no room to get the pipework in there at the right angle to be of any use. Do they need it.....well they do get very hot so it wouldn't have hurt, but we'll just have to see how it goes.

[Adam]

All the mods are now done for some trackdays for this year now, so here's some pics of the new splitter and spoiler extension for you all....

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e158/brm_ski/Rover%20BRM%20Track%20Car/010520101330.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e158/brm_ski/Rover%20BRM%20Track%20Car/010520101335.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e158/brm_ski/Rover%20BRM%20Track%20Car/010520101336.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e158/brm_ski/Rover%20BRM%20Track%20Car/010520101337.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e158/brm_ski/Rover%20BRM%20Track%20Car/010520101338.jpg

[Simply Si]

looks bloody ******* adam well done. i love the spoiler extension.

[welshone]

Great work Adam & TDR :beer2:

Love the extra rear spoiler but not to keen on the splitter but i'm sure it will do what it's suppose to do and give you a better ride.

[Seabart]

Looks awezome! Love the stickers! That car is now a perfect ambassador for the breed!

[Fast Alan]

i love it
from my grandaughter ellie

[Adam]

Cheers everyone (especially Ellie :D )!

Can't wait for the first track day of the year now :mml:

[Taphouse]

looks awsome, loving the BRM decals.
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[Adam]

Mini update, no pictures I'm afraid.

After blowing up two Stack electronic oil pressure gauges we decided to switch to a Stack mechanical gauge.

I must say it's a lot better than the electronic version, gives a much clearer reading of what's happening. Also very easy to fit and route the tubing through the bulkhead so the gauge sits exactly where the electronic one sat :D

[pfgascoigne]

How much does the car weigh after all the mods? How much does a BRM weigh as standard?

[Adam]

As standard they're 1049kg iirc, ours is definitely under 1000kg now but haven't managed to get it on a weigh bridge yet :(

[pfgascoigne]

I have the BRM, Addition to the 200 owners manual, which says "Approximate unladen vehicle weight (full fuel tank, including sunroof but excluding air-coditioning). 1100kg."
I work for a very large re-cycling company and we have two weigbridges which are calibrated every three months. So I filled up the (absolutely standard excluding air conditioning) car and weighed it on both bridges, and it weighed........1100kg on the nail!
Without fuel it would be,

1100kg - 37kg ( the weight of 50 litres of fuel) = 1063kg

But I can't see many people driving around with no fuel in the car for obvious reasons, so I suppose for all practical purposes the road weight is going to around 1080 kg.

I also weighed it front and rear, front 680kg, rear 420kg. This is 62% front 38% rear, which is not good.

Have you any idea about how much weight you will have saved by taking the sunroof out?

[welshone]

I have the BRM, Addition to the 200 owners manual, which says "Approximate unladen vehicle weight (full fuel tank, including sunroof but excluding air-coditioning). 1100kg."
I work for a very large re-cycling company and we have two weigbridges which are calibrated every three months. So I filled up the (absolutely standard excluding air conditioning) car and weighed it on both bridges, and it weighed........1100kg on the nail!
Without fuel it would be,

1100kg - 37kg ( the weight of 50 litres of fuel) = 1063kg

But I can't see many people driving around with no fuel in the car for obvious reasons, so I suppose for all practical purposes the road weight is going to around 1080 kg.

I also weighed it front and rear, front 680kg, rear 420kg. This is 62% front 38% rear, which is not good.

Have you any idea about how much weight you will have saved by taking the sunroof out?


Interesting figures I might give mine a go at work as well. ( also work for a large recycling company in East London with said weighbridge)

Is Yours standard???

[Adam]

I have the BRM, Addition to the 200 owners manual, which says "Approximate unladen vehicle weight (full fuel tank, including sunroof but excluding air-coditioning). 1100kg."
I work for a very large re-cycling company and we have two weigbridges which are calibrated every three months. So I filled up the (absolutely standard excluding air conditioning) car and weighed it on both bridges, and it weighed........1100kg on the nail!
Without fuel it would be,

1100kg - 37kg ( the weight of 50 litres of fuel) = 1063kg

But I can't see many people driving around with no fuel in the car for obvious reasons, so I suppose for all practical purposes the road weight is going to around 1080 kg.

I also weighed it front and rear, front 680kg, rear 420kg. This is 62% front 38% rear, which is not good.

Have you any idea about how much weight you will have saved by taking the sunroof out?

Very interesting. I'd love to weigh the track car and definitely find out the front/rear balance. In fact we were talking about this the other day at the unit when we took the boot off the scrapped BRM and felt the weight of it. Decided that it would actually help balance the car.

[pfgascoigne]

welshone,

Yes, absolutely standard.


Adam,

What about the weight of the sunroof?

[Fast Alan]

Dont know if I can find a means to weigh it but I have the complete sunroof in storage at work.its not that heavy though

[pfgascoigne]

Alan,

Did you take your sunroof out, what sort of job was it?

[Fast Alan]

I didnt got it of Adam,but its not that hard once the head lining is removed you have 4 drain holes to unclip pipes from,the wiring to the motor and around 4-6 bolts holding the entire thing up,then it can come down in on big piece

[pfgascoigne]

Alan,
I suspect that's the easy bit. What do you have to put in to make it a non-sunroof car?

[Nobrainer]

A large piece of glass. Preferably with a motor so you can open it like a window

[Fast Alan]

Alan,
I suspect that's the easy bit. What do you have to put in to make it a non-sunroof car?

You could fabricate some metal and with some welding and a bit of bodywork lose the hole from outside,then you could get some head lining material and recover the inside -hole,depends how good you want the finish,or if your losing weight for your Track days the inside wont really mater,would just be the expense of getting the roof resprayed

[pfgascoigne]

Alan,
If you look on page 5 of this thread you will see the strengthener they are going to use from the donor car. Page 7 shows the nearly finished article, but unfortunately no explanation of what you do to get from page 5 to page 7. The roof is a complex double curve, so you need to get things right or it will look terible. If you buy a donor car with no sunroof, but the right colour headlining then you have all the bits you need.
I need instructions Adam, where are you?

[Fast Alan]

Alan,
If you look on page 5 of this thread you will see the strengthener they are going to use from the donor car. Page 7 shows the nearly finished article, but unfortunately no explanation of what you do to get from page 5 to page 7. The roof is a complex double curve, so you need to get things right or it will look terible. If you buy a donor car with no sunroof, but the right colour headlining then you have all the bits you need.
I need instructions Adam, where are you?

Yes best wait for Adam as nobody else can help you,no doubt he will be along soon

[Adam]

I'm here :)

Replacing the sunroof with a metal plate is far far from an easy job. We did have a piece of roof from a donor car.....but....the roof is INCREDIBLY flimsy. Even with dad welding and me immediately cooling the welds the roof was starting to flex incredibly with the heat. In the end we just welded it completely, ground down the welds and reshaped the roof as best we could and then had to have a skim of filler over the top before respraying.

My advice if we were to do it again, firstly buy a car with a sunroof to begin with :rofl: otherwise cut the entire roof skin off the car and find a donor skin from a no-sunroof car and weld the entire thin on in the gullies. I can't gaurantee it wont still need filling again.

[Nobrainer]

Won't the filler crack the first time the roof flexes?

[Adam]

Nah, it's been fine for all the track days we've done. Trust me though, there is NO flex in this car :D

[pfgascoigne]

Oh yes there is! Forces centered around the suspension mounting points which tranfer to the whole shell. You can make a car shell stiffer (much stiffer in yours), but you can't totally prevent body flex.

[Adam]

Ah well, it's been fine so far and I'm not overly worried about it :)

[JoF@]

Hi Adam,

What type of clutch do you used for trackday

:wave:

[Adam]

If I remember rightly it was an ebc black diamond clutch we popped in there.

[JoF@]

Is a 4 paddle plate or simple?

[Adam]

Just a simple clutch, hasn't let us down at all since it was put in and weve given it plenty of abuse.

[iancampbell]

Just read this from start to finish - simply an epic build. I thought a BRM couldn't be improved on!!

[Adam]

Thanks Ian. She needs some more tinkering but that'll come once the B is done.

[Adam]

Not updated this in ages.....

The car has been running fantastically for a couple of years now, numberous track days done and it's been great fun.

Main reason for the thread resurrection was to pop a couple of photos of the replced front splitter up. It was damaged loading onto the trailer...

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e158/brm_ski/Rover%20BRM%20Track%20Car/IMAG0755.jpg

So all had to come off and a new piece put in, in pieces...

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e158/brm_ski/Rover%20BRM%20Track%20Car/IMAG0754.jpg

Here it is all bolted back up now...

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e158/brm_ski/Rover%20BRM%20Track%20Car/IMAG0757.jpg

[brmad]

About time you brought her up my way matey.